Another rave broken up by force

Following on the heels of the July 31st debacle in the Czech Republic, another rave was broken up with the use of extreme force. Probably in another ex-communist country, trying to control “dangerous anarchists”, right? Wrong. How about right here in the United States?
The whole situation disgusts me. There is NO WAY that kind of force was necessary, even IF the party was illegal.
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Rave Raided by Utah Police – A Father’s Testimonial
Aug 24 2005
I’m a 52 year-old father of one.
My only son, Brandon, is now 25 years old. He is a school teacher in Fort Worth, Texas. When he was 15, Brandon asked for my permission to go to a ‘rave.’
Now I was more than a little disturbed by this, as most of you parents out there would be. My kid, a very bright boy with promise and intellect, wanting to go hang out at a party with a bunch of druggie heathens? Oh no, not in this house. So I said no, and Brandon did not go out that night.
Two weeks later, he asked again, and again I said no. Two or three weeks down the road, the same thing. Finally, in the heat of what was becoming a regularly-occurring heated argument, I gave in on one condition: I would be going with him.
Folks, these kids are OUR children. And let me tell you now, the kids are alright. I went to that rave. I went to the one he wanted to go to about a month later. Although he no longer lives close by, Brandon still attends raves, and with my blessing.
I’ve seen this community of “druggie heathens,” and they’re going to be just fine. If anything, the raving community has taught me several things as a father. Acceptance, for one. The kids, some sober and more than a few not, accepted me, an old fogie. Believe it or not, after talking with a lot of these previously-deemed miscreants, I’ve found that these kids are some of the brightest out there. Even those that are on drugs.
Raves are NOT scary. I’ve been far more scared driving up to an ATM near my home in Miami. I’ve been more afraid to walk down the streets in some nearby neighborhoods. There are no weapons at raves. There’s security personnel checking everyone, and I mean everyone, including then 42-year old fathers.
Now I’m not saying I’ve never seen things that have scared me. Once, I saw a person overdose. On alcohol. In all of my experiences at raves over the past 10 years, I’ve never seen someone overdose on ecstacy or any other drug. Considering the amount of narcotics done in and around Miami, I’d say raves are one of the safest places for your children to be on the weekends, if they’re not within your sight.
What we as parents are forgetting is the amount of LOVE in the raving community. By love, I do not mean sex. I mean genuine affection for the well being of others. These kids care for each other. They look out for their friends and make sure they’re okay. They bear candy bracelets and hand them out to the people they meet, as a memento of their meeting and of the night. They’re not gun-toting, rape and pillaging youth.
Do I agree with drug use? Absolutely not. However, these are an independent people, with minds of their own. At least they have people that care about their well being watching over them when they’re on something.
These are OUR children. They are not terrorists. They should not be having assault rifles pointed in their direction. They should not be attacked for gathering peacefully and listening to music, sober or not. They should not be attacked like dogs, by dogs (two and four-legged).
People, stand up for your rights as citizens. Stand up for YOUR children. There are right and wrong ways to do things, and this was wrong. If you want to break up a rave, fine. Bring in officers and tell people to go home. You don’t need camouflage, tear gas, attack dogs and assault rifles to do this. A simple, “We’re shutting it down,” will do.
Hopefully, some of these atrocities perpetuated upon the kids will be revisited upon officers with suspensions, firings and lawsuits. Just because you have a badge doesn’t give you the right to break the law yourselves by beating defenseless children. You should be ashamed of yourselves. God IS watching.
To the kids out there posting and reading these comments, know this. Some of us parents love you. Some of us parents care for you. Some of us parents SUPPORT YOUR CAUSE, whether we agree with it or not. Peace, love, UNITY and respect. Please, be safe and continue to help others.
To the parents: listen to your kids. Show some interest in the same things they do. Connect. Be open-minded. Attend a rave and decide for yourself. Don’t let society’s stigmas rule your beliefs. Search out truth, and find satisfaction at coming to your conclusions through experience rather than simply believing everything you hear.
-A Truly Concerned Parent


10 thoughts on “Another rave broken up by force”

  1. “Terrorism” might be going a bit far, but it’s certainly on the way. And yeah, from what I can tell, all the required permits were obtained.

  2. the police’s actions weren’t terrorism (ha, well, maybe for some people it was), I’m talking about the municipality’s view of “The Rave”.
    For all we know, it could have been a secret gathering of al qaeda!!

  3. Now, shutting down the party is a bit much. But if they were suspecting drugs in large amounts I can see them “shutting it down”. Sucks since they worked so hard to put the show on … the police should have had better connections with the promoters so that the ‘gate security’ was authorized. But again, if this was a major drug bust … I can see things going down like this.
    Personally, I would like a little more info on the matter. I watched the video – but did not see anything horrible going on. Sure they showed up armed and in SWAT gear – but that is just training and precaution. I did not see “heavy handed” behaviour – just standard arrests going on. At 1500 people, a riot could easily break out so you need to come prepared and be a bit forceful. Though I will admit there is a line – just did not come through on the video (at least I did not catch anything).
    Maybe there is more light still to be shed on the situation …

  4. The summary of what I’ve read so far: some bogus claims on both sides:
    -The USE of force was exaggerated (where was that teargas?), though the DISPLAY was not
    -It is not clear there were large quantities of drugs
    Here’s the Sheriff’s statement (click the link to read).
    My comments:
    -People who overdose go to the hospital, they don’t get released to their parents.
    “It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party.”
    -Yeah, but this is only applicable to events which run longer than 12 hours. The contracts for the security and light personel show the party was intended to run 10.
    A question I need answered. Why were police trying to break/confiscate video equipment?
    This article describing the bust in the Daily Herald (a Utah paper) has 186 comments attached to it, discussing both sides. Lots of reading in there.
    A followup article gets the number of people in attendance wrong, but makes some important points regarding the interpretation of the law: as law enforcement, acting on the assumption the law will be broken is a dangerous point of view.

  5. I’m just going out on a limb here but a better way of catching the drug dealers is to not scare them away — instead, bust them individually at the party. saying “party’s over” and chasing everyone away is not a drug bust nor does it do anybody any good!

  6. I’m not entirely certain that a large gathering of people should need ‘approval’ to be legal. Whatever happened to the right to free assembly? Honestly, any state that requires permits to gather in outdoor, private areas (public ones I can see because the enjoyment of all is at stake) … has a lot of issues.

  7. Well everyone is assumed innocent until proven guilty, but suspected and treated as guilty until proven innocent.
    I’m confused.

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